Compare/Arcee Trinity-Large-Thinking vs OpenMythos

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Arcee Trinity-Large-Thinking vs OpenMythos

Which one should you ship with? Here is the side-by-side panel verdict, pricing read, reviewer split, and community vote comparison.

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Models

Arcee Trinity-Large-Thinking

399B open-weight reasoning model, 13B active params, Apache 2.0

Ship

75%

Panel ship

Community

Paid

Entry

Arcee AI, a 30-person startup, has released Trinity-Large-Thinking — a 399B sparse mixture-of-experts reasoning model under Apache 2.0. Only 13B parameters activate per token, giving it inference speed 2-3x faster than comparable dense models. In internal benchmarks and early community testing, it ranks #2 on PinchBench, trailing only Anthropic's Opus 4.6, at a list price of $0.90/M output tokens — roughly 96% cheaper than frontier closed models. The model was trained in a $20M, 33-day run on 2,048 NVIDIA Blackwell GPUs. Arcee trained it using a constitutional AI-style process with synthetic chain-of-thought data generated from multiple frontier models, then applied a reinforcement learning phase using outcome-based rewards on math, code, and logic benchmarks. Trinity-Large-Thinking is the strongest open-weight reasoning model released to date on a commercial-friendly license. For companies with privacy requirements or custom deployment needs, it represents a credible alternative to frontier closed APIs — especially for code generation, mathematical reasoning, and structured data tasks where the gap between open and closed models has historically been widest.

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Models

OpenMythos

Open reconstruction of Claude Mythos using Recurrent-Depth Transformers

Mixed

50%

Panel ship

Community

Paid

Entry

OpenMythos is a community-driven theoretical reconstruction of Claude Mythos's suspected architecture, implementing a Recurrent-Depth Transformer (RDT) — a looped transformer that recycles layers multiple times per forward pass for deeper reasoning without massive parameter growth. The project drew 10,100 GitHub stars in its first week, reflecting intense developer curiosity about what's powering Anthropic's latest generation models. The architecture has three stages: a Prelude (initial layers), a Recurrent Block (looped up to 32 times with shared weights), and a Coda (final layers). Rather than stacking hundreds of unique layers, the recurrent block runs the same weights multiple times with learned injection parameters updating hidden states between loops — enabling implicit chain-of-thought reasoning in continuous latent space without generating intermediate tokens. The project supports Grouped Query Attention (GQA) with optional Flash Attention 2, Multi-Latent Attention (MLA), and sparse MoE with routed and shared experts. Model scales range from 1B to 1T parameters. The key claim is that RDT achieves reasoning depth comparable to fixed-depth models with far more parameters, since computational complexity scales with loop iterations rather than layer count. This would explain how Claude Mythos achieves strong reasoning performance without the extreme parameter counts of brute-force scaling — though Anthropic has neither confirmed nor denied the architecture.

Decision
Arcee Trinity-Large-Thinking
OpenMythos
Panel verdict
Ship · 3 ship / 1 skip
Mixed · 2 ship / 2 skip
Community
No community votes yet
No community votes yet
Pricing
$0.90/M output tokens (API) / Self-hostable open weights
Open Source
Best for
399B open-weight reasoning model, 13B active params, Apache 2.0
Open reconstruction of Claude Mythos using Recurrent-Depth Transformers
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Models
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Reviewer scorecard

Builder
80/100 · ship

A #2 benchmark result from a 30-person startup under Apache 2.0 is legitimately shocking. The sparse MoE architecture means you can run 399B at a reasonable cost — and $0.90/M output is almost too cheap to believe for this performance tier. This is going in our eval suite immediately.

80/100 · ship

The RDT architecture is backed by published research — this isn't pure speculation. The code is clean, the model configs cover 1B to 1T scales, and the Flash Attention 2 + MoE integration is production-quality. Even if the Mythos attribution is wrong, the architecture itself is worth experimenting with for inference-efficient reasoning.

Skeptic
45/100 · skip

Benchmark numbers from the releasing company always look better than real-world deployment. PinchBench is also relatively new and the community hasn't stress-tested whether it correlates with production quality. Wait for independent evals before betting a product on this.

45/100 · skip

This is fundamentally speculative — Anthropic has said nothing about Mythos's architecture, and the RDT attribution is community inference. Shipping models based on 'theoretical reconstructions' of closed-source systems is a recipe for building on a false premise. Interesting for research, but don't bet production systems on it.

Futurist
80/100 · ship

This is the model that closes the open vs. closed frontier gap. When a 30-person startup can train a near-frontier reasoner for $20M on a commercial license, the economics of AI completely change. Enterprises that couldn't afford frontier APIs will rebuild their stacks around self-hosted models like this.

80/100 · ship

Whether or not OpenMythos accurately mirrors Claude's internals, the underlying RDT architecture is genuinely compelling for reasoning-heavy tasks. The community reverse-engineering of frontier model architectures is a powerful forcing function — it accelerates open-source capability even when the attribution turns out to be wrong.

Creator
80/100 · ship

For long-form creative work requiring multi-step reasoning — worldbuilding, complex narrative planning, detailed research synthesis — a 399B model at this price point is transformative. The chain-of-thought always-on design means it actually shows its reasoning, which helps when I need to redirect it mid-task.

45/100 · skip

Unless you're a researcher actively training models, OpenMythos is theoretical infrastructure without immediate creative application. Follow the project for when pre-trained checkpoints ship — that's when it becomes practically useful for creative workflows.

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