Compare/DeepSeek V4-Pro vs Gemma 4

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DeepSeek V4-Pro vs Gemma 4

Which one should you ship with? Here is the side-by-side panel verdict, pricing read, reviewer split, and community vote comparison.

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Foundation Models

DeepSeek V4-Pro

1.6T-param MoE model, 1M context, Nvidia-free — just dropped Apache 2.0

Ship

75%

Panel ship

Community

Paid

Entry

DeepSeek just dropped V4-Pro and V4-Flash simultaneously — and it's a statement release. V4-Pro packs 1.6 trillion total parameters in a MoE architecture with only 49B active per token, a 1-million-token context window, and a hybrid attention system (Compressed Sparse Attention + Heavily Compressed Attention) that requires just 27% of single-token inference FLOPs compared to V3.2. Both models are Apache 2.0. The hardware story is arguably the bigger news: V4 was trained entirely on Huawei Ascend 950PR chips, zero NVIDIA. That's a geopolitical and technical milestone — it validates China's domestic AI compute stack at frontier scale. The Engram Memory System gives V4 conditional context recall (94% at 128K tokens vs ~45% for V3.2), enabling genuinely long-context reasoning. V4-Flash at 284B parameters (13B active) is the cheaper, faster sibling for production use. Pricing is expected around $0.30/M tokens for Pro. The timing — released to HN today with 99+ points within hours — confirms this as an immediate conversation in the developer community about whether open-weight frontier models have finally matched proprietary ones.

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AI Models

Gemma 4

Google's sharpest open models — multimodal, 256K context, runs on a Raspberry Pi

Ship

75%

Panel ship

Community

Free

Entry

Gemma 4 is Google DeepMind's fourth-generation open model family, released April 2, 2026, under Apache 2.0. Four variants ship in the family: E2B and E4B edge models that run fully offline on phones, Raspberry Pi, and NVIDIA Jetson; a 26B Mixture-of-Experts model that activates only 3.8B parameters at inference; and a 31B Dense flagship. The 31B scores 1452 on the Arena AI text leaderboard (third among all open models), hits 89.2% on AIME 2026 math, and 85.2% on MMLU Pro — versus Gemma 3's 20.8% on AIME. All four model sizes accept text and image inputs. The edge models additionally handle native audio and video, making them the first on-device models with full multimodal coverage. Context windows reach 256K tokens on the large variants, enabling entire codebases or long documents in a single prompt. Native support for tool use, structured output, and agentic workflows is baked in from the start. For the open-source AI community, Gemma 4 is a watershed: a commercially permissive model that genuinely competes with closed-source alternatives on reasoning benchmarks. Gemma downloads crossed 400 million before this launch — Gemma 4's edge deployment story, combining on-device inference with frontier-class reasoning, looks set to make that number look small.

Decision
DeepSeek V4-Pro
Gemma 4
Panel verdict
Ship · 3 ship / 1 skip
Ship · 3 ship / 1 skip
Community
No community votes yet
No community votes yet
Pricing
Open Source (Apache 2.0) / ~$0.30/MTok API
Free / Open Source (Apache 2.0)
Best for
1.6T-param MoE model, 1M context, Nvidia-free — just dropped Apache 2.0
Google's sharpest open models — multimodal, 256K context, runs on a Raspberry Pi
Category
Foundation Models
AI Models

Reviewer scorecard

Builder
80/100 · ship

Apache 2.0 with 1M context and frontier-level benchmarks changes the commercial calculus entirely. Self-host for sensitive workloads, use the API for production — the 49B active params means reasonable inference costs if you have the hardware.

80/100 · ship

Apache 2.0, runs on a Pi, 256K context, beats proprietary models on AIME — this is the open-source AI stack I've been waiting for. The agentic workflow support baked in natively means I'm not bolting on separate tooling. Shipping today.

Skeptic
45/100 · skip

Benchmark claims from DeepSeek have historically been hard to independently replicate at launch. The Huawei chip story is compelling but also means the Western open-source deployment story requires significant hardware work. And 1.6T parameters is not consumer hardware territory.

45/100 · skip

The benchmark numbers are impressive on paper, but Gemma 3 was also hyped and underdelivered in production on complex multi-step tasks. The edge models are still unproven outside of Google's own hardware partnerships. Watch the community benchmarks before committing to a migration.

Futurist
80/100 · ship

V4's Nvidia-free training stack is a geopolitical inflection point as much as a technical one. It proves the export control strategy isn't containing China's AI progress — and gives the global open-source community a frontier model with no licensing restrictions.

80/100 · ship

On-device frontier-class intelligence with native audio and video is the inflection point for ambient AI. When a $35 Raspberry Pi can run a model that beats last year's GPT-4 on math, the entire economics of edge AI applications change overnight. This is the model that makes AI infrastructure costs asymptotically cheap.

Creator
80/100 · ship

A 1M-token context model at $0.30/MTok Apache 2.0 means long-form creative projects — novels, screenplays, brand bibles — can finally be processed holistically. The Flash variant's low cost makes it accessible even for creative side projects with tight budgets.

80/100 · ship

The document and PDF parsing, OCR, chart comprehension, and UI understanding built into every model size is huge for creative workflow automation. I can finally build tools that read design briefs, invoices, and mockups without needing a cloud API call. The offline capability means client data never leaves my machine.

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