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DeepSeek V4-Pro vs GLM-5.1
Which one should you ship with? Here is the side-by-side panel verdict, pricing read, reviewer split, and community vote comparison.
Foundation Models
DeepSeek V4-Pro
1.6T-param MoE model, 1M context, Nvidia-free — just dropped Apache 2.0
75%
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DeepSeek just dropped V4-Pro and V4-Flash simultaneously — and it's a statement release. V4-Pro packs 1.6 trillion total parameters in a MoE architecture with only 49B active per token, a 1-million-token context window, and a hybrid attention system (Compressed Sparse Attention + Heavily Compressed Attention) that requires just 27% of single-token inference FLOPs compared to V3.2. Both models are Apache 2.0. The hardware story is arguably the bigger news: V4 was trained entirely on Huawei Ascend 950PR chips, zero NVIDIA. That's a geopolitical and technical milestone — it validates China's domestic AI compute stack at frontier scale. The Engram Memory System gives V4 conditional context recall (94% at 128K tokens vs ~45% for V3.2), enabling genuinely long-context reasoning. V4-Flash at 284B parameters (13B active) is the cheaper, faster sibling for production use. Pricing is expected around $0.30/M tokens for Pro. The timing — released to HN today with 99+ points within hours — confirms this as an immediate conversation in the developer community about whether open-weight frontier models have finally matched proprietary ones.
AI Models
GLM-5.1
#1 on SWE-Bench Pro — 744B MoE model that runs autonomously for 8 hours
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GLM-5.1 is Z.AI's post-training upgrade of the 744B Mixture-of-Experts GLM-5 model, and it has just claimed the top spot on SWE-Bench Pro with a score of 58.4 — beating GPT-5.4 (57.7), Claude Opus 4.6 (57.3), and Gemini 3.1 Pro (54.2). The model is designed for long-horizon agentic tasks and can run autonomously for up to 8 hours across thousands of iterations on a single problem. The agentic capabilities include extended context retention, tool-calling with recovery loops, and a reinforcement-trained "persistence" mode that keeps the model on-task through failures and dead ends rather than surfacing errors to the user. The model was trained entirely on Huawei Ascend 910B chips using the MindSpore framework — no US silicon, no CUDA. The geopolitical dimension is as significant as the technical one: GLM-5.1 is direct evidence that US export controls on Nvidia hardware have not meaningfully slowed China's frontier model development. The 8-hour autonomous execution window is also a step-change from current agentic systems that struggle past 20-30 minutes of coherent work — if this benchmark holds up in real-world testing, it's a genuine advancement in the class of problems AI agents can independently solve.
Reviewer scorecard
“Apache 2.0 with 1M context and frontier-level benchmarks changes the commercial calculus entirely. Self-host for sensitive workloads, use the API for production — the 49B active params means reasonable inference costs if you have the hardware.”
“If the 8-hour autonomous execution claim is real and not cherry-picked, this changes the calculus for using AI on genuinely hard engineering problems. SWE-Bench Pro #1 is also a credible metric — I want to test this on my own repos immediately.”
“Benchmark claims from DeepSeek have historically been hard to independently replicate at launch. The Huawei chip story is compelling but also means the Western open-source deployment story requires significant hardware work. And 1.6T parameters is not consumer hardware territory.”
“SWE-Bench benchmarks have historically shown poor correlation with real-world coding productivity, and the '8-hour autonomous' claim needs independent validation. Z.AI is also a relatively unknown quantity compared to Anthropic or Google — API reliability and pricing are completely unproven.”
“V4's Nvidia-free training stack is a geopolitical inflection point as much as a technical one. It proves the export control strategy isn't containing China's AI progress — and gives the global open-source community a frontier model with no licensing restrictions.”
“The strategic significance of a Chinese lab hitting #1 on the coding benchmark using zero US hardware cannot be overstated. The export control strategy is officially not working as intended, and GLM-5.1 will accelerate the geopolitical AI arms race in ways that reshape the entire industry.”
“A 1M-token context model at $0.30/MTok Apache 2.0 means long-form creative projects — novels, screenplays, brand bibles — can finally be processed holistically. The Flash variant's low cost makes it accessible even for creative side projects with tight budgets.”
“For creative work, I need a model with strong multimodal capabilities and reliable API access — both unproven for GLM-5.1. The coding benchmark lead is impressive but not directly relevant to my workflows. I'll wait for independent reviews before switching.”
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