AI tool comparison
DeepSeek V4-Pro vs Qwen3.6-35B-A3B
Which one should you ship with? Here is the side-by-side panel verdict, pricing read, reviewer split, and community vote comparison.
Foundation Models
DeepSeek V4-Pro
1.6T-param MoE model, 1M context, Nvidia-free — just dropped Apache 2.0
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DeepSeek just dropped V4-Pro and V4-Flash simultaneously — and it's a statement release. V4-Pro packs 1.6 trillion total parameters in a MoE architecture with only 49B active per token, a 1-million-token context window, and a hybrid attention system (Compressed Sparse Attention + Heavily Compressed Attention) that requires just 27% of single-token inference FLOPs compared to V3.2. Both models are Apache 2.0. The hardware story is arguably the bigger news: V4 was trained entirely on Huawei Ascend 950PR chips, zero NVIDIA. That's a geopolitical and technical milestone — it validates China's domestic AI compute stack at frontier scale. The Engram Memory System gives V4 conditional context recall (94% at 128K tokens vs ~45% for V3.2), enabling genuinely long-context reasoning. V4-Flash at 284B parameters (13B active) is the cheaper, faster sibling for production use. Pricing is expected around $0.30/M tokens for Pro. The timing — released to HN today with 99+ points within hours — confirms this as an immediate conversation in the developer community about whether open-weight frontier models have finally matched proprietary ones.
Open Source Models
Qwen3.6-35B-A3B
35B total, 3B active: Alibaba's lean MoE coding beast goes fully open source
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Alibaba's Qwen team open-sourced Qwen3.6-35B-A3B on April 16, 2026 — a sparse Mixture-of-Experts model with 35 billion total parameters but only ~3 billion active per forward pass. That architectural trick is the whole story: you get near-frontier performance while consuming compute comparable to a 3B dense model. It's available under Apache 2.0 on Hugging Face and ModelScope. The model supports a 262K token context window (extensible to 1M with YaRN), multimodal inputs including text, images, and video, and is purpose-built for agentic coding workflows. On SWE-bench and Terminal-Bench it outperforms the much larger dense Qwen3.5-27B, matching Gemma4-31B on several benchmarks. RefCOCO visual grounding score hits 92.0 — some multimodal metrics reach Claude Sonnet 4.5 territory. Community reaction has been immediate: r/LocalLLaMA lit up with benchmarks showing it solving coding tasks that models with 10x the active parameters couldn't handle. The FP8 quantized variant runs comfortably on a single 24GB consumer GPU, making this the most capable locally-runnable coding agent most developers have ever had access to.
Reviewer scorecard
“Apache 2.0 with 1M context and frontier-level benchmarks changes the commercial calculus entirely. Self-host for sensitive workloads, use the API for production — the 49B active params means reasonable inference costs if you have the hardware.”
“3B active parameters with 35B parameter breadth is engineering magic. I'm getting near-frontier coding results in Cline and running it locally on a 3090 — the refusals are lower than Claude for security research too. Apache 2.0 means I can fine-tune it on my codebase. This is the best open-source coding model I've used.”
“Benchmark claims from DeepSeek have historically been hard to independently replicate at launch. The Huawei chip story is compelling but also means the Western open-source deployment story requires significant hardware work. And 1.6T parameters is not consumer hardware territory.”
“MoE models have notoriously bad batching throughput — if you're serving this at scale, the economics don't work out. And Alibaba's track record on long-term model support and safety filtering is shakier than Google or Anthropic. It's impressive in isolation, but enterprise teams should pressure-test it before replacing frontier APIs.”
“V4's Nvidia-free training stack is a geopolitical inflection point as much as a technical one. It proves the export control strategy isn't containing China's AI progress — and gives the global open-source community a frontier model with no licensing restrictions.”
“The gap between open and closed models is closing faster than anyone predicted. When a freely downloadable model matches Claude Sonnet on multimodal benchmarks, the frontier lab pricing power evaporates. Qwen3.6-35B-A3B is another milestone in the commoditization of intelligence — and commoditization always accelerates adoption.”
“A 1M-token context model at $0.30/MTok Apache 2.0 means long-form creative projects — novels, screenplays, brand bibles — can finally be processed holistically. The Flash variant's low cost makes it accessible even for creative side projects with tight budgets.”
“I don't often care about coding models, but this one handles image + video understanding for design briefs surprisingly well. I used it to analyze a competitor's UI and generate a full redesign spec. The 262K context means I can feed entire brand guidelines without chunking.”
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