AI tool comparison
DeepSeek V4-Pro vs Qwen3.6-35B-A3B
Which one should you ship with? Here is the side-by-side panel verdict, pricing read, reviewer split, and community vote comparison.
Foundation Models
DeepSeek V4-Pro
1.6T-param MoE model, 1M context, Nvidia-free — just dropped Apache 2.0
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DeepSeek just dropped V4-Pro and V4-Flash simultaneously — and it's a statement release. V4-Pro packs 1.6 trillion total parameters in a MoE architecture with only 49B active per token, a 1-million-token context window, and a hybrid attention system (Compressed Sparse Attention + Heavily Compressed Attention) that requires just 27% of single-token inference FLOPs compared to V3.2. Both models are Apache 2.0. The hardware story is arguably the bigger news: V4 was trained entirely on Huawei Ascend 950PR chips, zero NVIDIA. That's a geopolitical and technical milestone — it validates China's domestic AI compute stack at frontier scale. The Engram Memory System gives V4 conditional context recall (94% at 128K tokens vs ~45% for V3.2), enabling genuinely long-context reasoning. V4-Flash at 284B parameters (13B active) is the cheaper, faster sibling for production use. Pricing is expected around $0.30/M tokens for Pro. The timing — released to HN today with 99+ points within hours — confirms this as an immediate conversation in the developer community about whether open-weight frontier models have finally matched proprietary ones.
AI Models
Qwen3.6-35B-A3B
35B MoE model with only 3B active params that beats models 10× its inference size
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Alibaba's Qwen team has released Qwen3.6-35B-A3B, a Mixture-of-Experts model that activates just 3 billion parameters per forward pass while drawing on 35 billion total. The result is frontier coding performance at the inference cost of a small model — it outperforms comparable dense models 10× its active size on agentic coding benchmarks. The native context window is 262K tokens, extensible to 1,010,000 tokens for long-document tasks. A standout feature is "thinking preservation" — the model retains reasoning context across turns in iterative development sessions, reducing the need to re-explain state in long agent loops. GGUF quantizations from Unsloth are already live for local use via Ollama, LM Studio, and llama.cpp, and the model lands well within the VRAM budget of a single 24 GB GPU at Q4_K_M. For developers, Qwen3.6-35B-A3B represents a genuinely efficient path to near-frontier coding capability without paying frontier API prices or needing server-grade hardware. The Apache 2.0 license means commercial use is unrestricted, making it a strong candidate for self-hosted coding agent backends.
Reviewer scorecard
“Apache 2.0 with 1M context and frontier-level benchmarks changes the commercial calculus entirely. Self-host for sensitive workloads, use the API for production — the 49B active params means reasonable inference costs if you have the hardware.”
“If you're running a self-hosted coding agent and paying $X/month in API bills, this is your exit ramp. 3B active params means a single 4090 can serve it comfortably, and the 262K context actually handles real codebases. Ship it as your backend and tune from there.”
“Benchmark claims from DeepSeek have historically been hard to independently replicate at launch. The Huawei chip story is compelling but also means the Western open-source deployment story requires significant hardware work. And 1.6T parameters is not consumer hardware territory.”
“We've seen 'beats models 10× its size' claims before — benchmark cherry-picking is rampant. The thinking preservation feature sounds promising, but agentic loop reliability is something you discover in production, not on leaderboards. Run your own evals before committing an entire stack to this.”
“V4's Nvidia-free training stack is a geopolitical inflection point as much as a technical one. It proves the export control strategy isn't containing China's AI progress — and gives the global open-source community a frontier model with no licensing restrictions.”
“MoE is increasingly the dominant paradigm for the efficiency frontier, and this is one of the clearest demonstrations of why. 3B active params at 35B effective capacity is not a trick — it's an architecture win. The line between 'local model' and 'frontier model' is erasing faster than anyone predicted.”
“A 1M-token context model at $0.30/MTok Apache 2.0 means long-form creative projects — novels, screenplays, brand bibles — can finally be processed holistically. The Flash variant's low cost makes it accessible even for creative side projects with tight budgets.”
“1M token context on a local model is a game-changer for creative workflows — entire novel manuscripts, full design system docs, long-form scripts fit in a single window. The zero API cost means no throttling during high-creativity sprints. This earns a spot in the local toolkit.”
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