AI tool comparison
DeepSeek V4-Pro vs Qwen3.6-35B-A3B
Which one should you ship with? Here is the side-by-side panel verdict, pricing read, reviewer split, and community vote comparison.
Foundation Models
DeepSeek V4-Pro
1.6T-param MoE model, 1M context, Nvidia-free — just dropped Apache 2.0
75%
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DeepSeek just dropped V4-Pro and V4-Flash simultaneously — and it's a statement release. V4-Pro packs 1.6 trillion total parameters in a MoE architecture with only 49B active per token, a 1-million-token context window, and a hybrid attention system (Compressed Sparse Attention + Heavily Compressed Attention) that requires just 27% of single-token inference FLOPs compared to V3.2. Both models are Apache 2.0. The hardware story is arguably the bigger news: V4 was trained entirely on Huawei Ascend 950PR chips, zero NVIDIA. That's a geopolitical and technical milestone — it validates China's domestic AI compute stack at frontier scale. The Engram Memory System gives V4 conditional context recall (94% at 128K tokens vs ~45% for V3.2), enabling genuinely long-context reasoning. V4-Flash at 284B parameters (13B active) is the cheaper, faster sibling for production use. Pricing is expected around $0.30/M tokens for Pro. The timing — released to HN today with 99+ points within hours — confirms this as an immediate conversation in the developer community about whether open-weight frontier models have finally matched proprietary ones.
AI Models
Qwen3.6-35B-A3B
35B MoE model, only 3B active params, beats Claude Sonnet 4.5 on benchmarks
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Qwen3.6-35B-A3B is Alibaba's latest sparse Mixture-of-Experts model — 35 billion total parameters, but only 3 billion activate per forward pass. That efficiency makes it competitive with models three to four times larger at inference while fitting comfortably on consumer hardware. It's natively multimodal, handling image, video, document, and spatial reasoning inputs out of the box, with a 262K context window extensible to 1M tokens. The benchmark numbers have been drawing serious attention. SWE-bench Verified: 73.4% (vs Gemma 4-31B at 52%, and substantially above Claude Sonnet 4.5). MMMU: 81.7 (Claude Sonnet 4.5 scores 79.6). AIME 2026: 92.7. On local inference hardware, community reports show 79–187 tokens/second depending on GPU tier, making it genuinely usable for agentic workflows without API latency. Released under Apache 2.0. The timing matters. With Claude Opus 4.7 drawing community criticism over tokenizer-inflated pricing, Qwen3.6-35B-A3B is arriving as a credible local alternative for agentic coding. r/LocalLLaMA threads from the past week show active migration from Opus 4.7 to Qwen3.6 for cost-sensitive workloads. It's currently #1 trending on Replicate.
Reviewer scorecard
“Apache 2.0 with 1M context and frontier-level benchmarks changes the commercial calculus entirely. Self-host for sensitive workloads, use the API for production — the 49B active params means reasonable inference costs if you have the hardware.”
“73.4% SWE-bench with 3B active params is extraordinary efficiency. This runs on a single A100 at usable speed, which means you can deploy it self-hosted for agentic coding pipelines without paying frontier API rates. The Apache license seals it — this goes into our infra immediately.”
“Benchmark claims from DeepSeek have historically been hard to independently replicate at launch. The Huawei chip story is compelling but also means the Western open-source deployment story requires significant hardware work. And 1.6T parameters is not consumer hardware territory.”
“Alibaba benchmarks should be read with appropriate skepticism — SWE-bench scores are sensitive to eval harness choices and there have been reproducibility issues with some Qwen claims before. Also, the 262K context at 3B active params sounds too good; I'd want to see real-world retrieval accuracy at 200K+ before trusting it in production agentic pipelines.”
“V4's Nvidia-free training stack is a geopolitical inflection point as much as a technical one. It proves the export control strategy isn't containing China's AI progress — and gives the global open-source community a frontier model with no licensing restrictions.”
“MoE with sparse activation is clearly the dominant architecture for the next wave of open models. The fact that 3B active params can match 2024's frontier is a signal about where inference efficiency is heading. In 12 months, 'frontier-competitive' will mean running locally on a MacBook.”
“A 1M-token context model at $0.30/MTok Apache 2.0 means long-form creative projects — novels, screenplays, brand bibles — can finally be processed holistically. The Flash variant's low cost makes it accessible even for creative side projects with tight budgets.”
“Native multimodal handling of images, video, and documents at this efficiency is a game-changer for content pipelines. If the quality holds up on real-world design tasks, this replaces a stack of specialized models with one local deployment.”
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